6.5 Creedmoor Vs 308 Win

6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Win

Many shooters and hunters would agree that both the newly popular 6.5 Creedmoor and the reliable 308 are both great calibers. Both of these guns are more than capable of taking game animals at great distances, and both are very accurate. But while the 308 Win has been around for a very long time, many may wonder if the flashy 6.5 Creedmoor that has taken the hunting and shooting worlds by storm is better. Let’s jump into this article comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Win.

6.5 CREEDMOOR VS 308 WIN

So how does the 6.5 Creedmoor stack up against the 308? And how do they both do when it comes to things like deer and bear hunting? Let’s take a look at each one individually and then compare both of them together to figure out the major differences!


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The 308 Winchester

The 308 Win got its start when the US Army replaced the M1 Garand with the M14 service rifle. This new rifle shot the 308 round, and it could basically do everything that the .30-06 Springfield did but with a few added benefits. It could fit in a short action rifle, and it was a little more accurate. This created a rising in popularity of this round, and many hunters fell in love with its accuracy and power as a hunting caliber. 

Another reason the 308 found so much popularity amongst hunters is its wide range of versatility. This gun can shoot a wide range of bullet sizes, allowing it to shoot everything from prairie dogs all the way up to giant moose. The most popular hunting loads for the 308 are generally 125, 150, 165, and 180-grain bullets, although the 150 and 165-grain bullets are the most popular for most situations. 

The 6.5 Creedmoor

The 6.5 Creedmoor, on the other hand, is a much newer caliber. Named the Creedmoor in honor of the Creedmoor shooting matches, this round was specifically designed with the goal of being the best competition shooting caliber. It has very little recoil, is extremely accurate, and has high BC bullets that keep their energy down range and buck the wind quite well. Because of all these benefits, it quickly found a home amongst hunters who wanted an accurate and reliable caliber for long-range hunting. 

Just like the 308, the 6.5 Creedmoor has a large variety of ammo that it can shoot. Its bullet weights come in many weights, with lighter weights anywhere from 120 to 135 grains, and heavier weights from 140 to 147 grains. The heavier weights, especially the 140-grain variety, tend to be the most popular amongst hunters. 

6.5 Creedmoor Vs 308 Win

So which one is better when it comes to hunting game like deer or even bear? Let’s take a look at a few different categories in order to better compare them. Starting with recoil, there is a clear difference between the two. Because the 308 is usually shooting a bigger, heavier round, it tends to have more recoil than you would find when shooting a Creedmoor. While it may not be much more, it is something to consider. 

Next, you have accuracy. Here the two guns are very similar, as both are very similar in size and velocities. If you have to pick a winner, the 6.5 Creedmoor would get the edge in extreme distances thanks to its bullet BC and its lighter recoil, allowing it to be very accurate. While it may sound like a 6.5 maybe a clear choice, the 308 does win when it comes to ammo availability and pricing. Because the Creedmoor is new, ammo is more expensive and generally harder to find than the traditional and trusted 308. 

Hunting with the 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 Win

What about hunting with these two calibers? Which one would make a better hunting rifle? It’s no secret that the Creedmoor has taken the hunting world by storm and may now be one of the most popular hunting rounds among deer hunters, but the 308 has the advantage of being a heavier round with more history and trust behind it. We know both of these rounds are very accurate and capable, so it will really come down to what you intend to use it for. 

When it comes to animals like deer or bear, either of these calibers is more than capable of being reliable, long-range hunting rifles. For larger animals like elk or even moose, you will want to stick with the larger 308 Win with heavier bullets. That is not to say that the 6.5 Creedmoor is not capable of taking down an elk, but most hunters tend to favor a heavier bullet from a larger caliber when going after anything larger than a whitetail deer. While things like deer and bear tend to die fairly easily from medium-sized rounds, larger animals like elk will take much more of a beating before dying. 

Which Should You Use?

So which caliber should you be using? As you can probably see, there really is no clearcut winner when it comes to these two rounds. Both are very capable when it comes to hunting, and both will be very accurate and reliable. Consider how much money you may want to spend on ammunition, or how important long-range accuracy is to you. For regular big game like deer or bear, either one of these will be more than adequate for your needs!

Wrap Up – 6.5 Creedmoor Vs 308 Win

No matter what you may think of the 6.5 Creedmoor or the 308 Win, there is no denying the fact that both of these calibers are easily two of the most popular hunting rounds in the country. Both are very accurate to long ranges, provide plenty of knockdown power, and are very fun to shoot. No matter which one you end up shooting, you can rest assured that it will kill whatever animal that you are hunting after!

For a review of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs 270 Win and the 6.5 Creedmoor’s viability for elk, keep reading here…

Sitka Fanatic Hoody


All right whitetail hunters, it is go time in the Midwest.  I have had this review of the Sitka Fanatic Hoody on the mind for some time now, but just haven’t had the chance to get it written and posted.  Since it is our favorite time of the year with the rut fast approaching, what better time than now to drop a review on a piece of gear that I have used and abused.

Background

Sitka Fanatic Hoody

Let me start with, I am not a Sitka fan boy by any stretch.  I think they make some good pieces of kit, but it is pricey.  I had no intention of wearing the Sitka Fanatic Hoody last year, and purchased it on last second at Cabelas before heading off to chase elk.  

If you are looking for a comparison of Mid-Layers that I have used (and there are a few) you can find that here.


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Construction

Let’s start with the bones of this mid-layer.  It is constructed of a soft grid fleece, that is quiet and does a great job of heat retention.  That is the point of a mid-layer after all.  I have worn this now on two western hunting trips and on full whitetail season as an insulation layer.  It is durable, I am hard on equipment and this piece has stood up to my abuse admirably.

Features

There are a few things that I look for in a mid-layer that I consider must haves.  Especially when I use this both for hunting whitetails out of a tree stand and chasing elk on the mountainside.  The top three features in my mind, are a hood, a half zip, and thumbholes.  These should be fairly straight forward, the hood keeps the wind off my head.  The half zip lets me cool down while hiking or climbing a trees tand.  Last, the thumbholes keep this layer in place as I am adding layers during long cold whitetail sits. The Sitka Fanatic Hoody has all three.

Additional Features

The Sitka Fanatic Hoody also has additional features that set it apart from some it’s competition.  It has a hand warmer pocket that is similar to your favorite hoody.  The sleeves are cut long, long enough that you can roll them down over your hands to block the wind and retain heat.  I found both features functional on the mountain side and on whitetail hunts.  The sleeve length is especially nice when using a climbing tree stand on a cold morning as it keeps my bare hands from touching the ice-cold metal.

Now lets move on to the one feature I was not fond of, the facemask.  I find this feature a little on the goofy side and the first thing I did when I got home was break out the scissors and cut it out.  This may be all mental on my side, but I couldn’t see wearing a facemask.

Durability

Sitka Fanatic Hoody Hand Warmer Sleeve

After two seasons out west, and one full whitetail season under its belt the Sitka Fanatic Hoody has proven to be a durable option.  As I am writing this, I am picking my hoody apart with a fine-tooth comb.  There are no tears, the seams and zippers are all like new.  The Sitka Fanatic Hoody is starting to show some signs wear.  The wear signs that I see are piling of the fleece.  The hand warmers at the end of the sleeves are by far the worst example (see picture).  There is slight piling of the fleece under the arms, but outside of those two spots, it is like new.

Fit

Overall the industry seems to be moving towards more form fitting or athletic cut hunting clothes.  This piece is a break from that, as it fits more traditional, much like your favorite hoody.  Minus the elastic in the bottom.

Wrap Up

Outside of a pair of Sitka gloves I scored in the Cabela’s bargain cave, this is the first piece of Sitka gear I used.  I am very impressed with the build quality and thought that went in to laying this piece of kit out.  I am going to evaluate some of the other Sitka whitetail options as my budget allows and it just so happens their catalog was delivered today.

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Stone Glacier – De Havilland Pants Full Review

stone glacier de Havilland pant review

I added a pair of Stone Glacier – De Havilland Pants to my kit early this spring.  If you want some background on hunting pants I have used, read my technical hunting pant review and comparison here.  In that article, I gave my initial impressions of the De Havilland pants. I had not worn them on a hunt at that point, only training hikes. I was not a raving fan but someone who was intrigued and willing to give them a shot. My original thought heading into this elk season is I would bring these Stone Glacier Pants along. Wearing them for a couple of days and then update my review.

Hitting the Trailhead

stone glacier de Havilland pant review

Rolling into the trailhead the first night I was pumped and ready to bomb off into the mountainside looking for elk. After setting up my camp for the night, I started to get my gear ready for the next morning.  As I was pulling my hunting clothes out of the tote and getting everything set, I came to the realization that I forgot my belt.  I know right, it is always something.  No matter how much gear we pack, we always forget something.  

As thoughts of a paracord belt ran through my head it hit me.  The Stone Glacier – De Havilland pants have a built in belt.  My problem was solved for the time being. In retrospect, it works out in favor of this article as that was the only pair of pants I could wear for the week.  


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During the Hunt

The Stone Glacier De Havilland pants held up well during my week of chasing elk.  Check out the video below for my thoughts on this while I was in the hunt. I did notice that the stitching on the butt started to come undone.  The seams were closed with adhesive as well as stitched, so they never came fully undone.

After the hunt I reached out to Stone Glacier Customer Service.  After sending pictures, I received an email asking me to call in.  I called in, had a great conversation with the team at Stone Glacier.  Before the day was up, they had a new pair in the mail. Their only request was that I wash the old ones before sending them back! 

Outside of the seam on the butt coming undone, they showed relatively little wear. I plowed through tons of brush getting off the beaten trail. The unit I started in was packed, so I was bushwacking more than I would have liked trying to get away from other hunters.


Stone Glacier – De Havilland Pants – Leg Zips

The leg zips are still my favorite feature. It was absolutely hot a couple of days and these leg vents were a lifesaver.  For the majority of the trip, I kept them unzipped as far as I could. I am hot blooded to begin with, add in hot weather, a pack and hiking. You can only imagine. These leg zips help keep you cool with added air flow.

In my conversation with Stone Glacier Customer Service, I asked the question of netting on the pants leg zips.  They clearly get this question often, but the reason there is no netting is so you can utilize the entire Stone Glacier pants system as a kit together.  The pieces work together, and if these pants had a net you would not be able to access the layers under these pants. 

Note on the Adjustable Fly

This was one of the features I was a little unsure of when I received the pants. It seemed like a good idea, but you never know how something like this will work in the field. I found myself moving the velcro fly as the week went along. I was clearly sweating out pounds, and this feature integrated with the built in belt perfectly to keep my pants up without a belt. This is key, I had a pack on the entire week hiking. My pants stayed snug around my waist with no hot spots.

Wrap Up – Stone Glacier – De Havilland Pants

My new Stone Glacier De Havilland pants have been delivered, so I am pumped that they stood behind their product.  Based on this experience, I will be buying more Stone Glacier products in the future.  If you are looking for pant weights or how these stack up to other options, read my overview and comparison here.

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